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Subjective view on your countries presidential campaign.
Published on July 1, 2008 By Scotteh In Politics

The following article is my subjective view of the American presidential election. I'll get the disclaimer out of the way first. I’m not American, I’m not as informed as many of you regarding the current presidential race with regards to policies and so on however, as I have already said, this is my subjective view (opinion) and if anything will prove as a good way to perhaps educate myself on the subject further.

I think the likes of the e-mail floating around that contain out of context quotes that was recently used in a JU article as a reference for an example of Obama’s supposed lack of patriotism and racial mentality shows at what length people are willing to go to just to influence the opinions of the masses, with one of our very own JU users falling for it when they used it as a reference.

The article in question can be found HERE.

It is all to often that we get people reacting in way that is can only be described as hearing only what they want to hear. People read that Obama is racists and anti-American, get floated an out of context quote and before you know its common fact amongst certain communities.

That’s not to say there haven’t been some genuine criticisms of Obama that should be debated properly, such as his position on Iraq, oil drilling and I think perhaps the most controversial issue of all, his former pastor.

The first two, I’m not all that clued up on, other than reading other JU users articles and what I’ve seen on the http://www.bbc.co.uk (which is very little). The third issue however was something that intrigued me, as I had heard the name of his pastor previously. As someone who is passionate about secularism, I’m all too familiar with the Nation of Islam (of whom Obama’s former pastor used to be a member).

I’m all to familiar with what he’s said and what he and others like him have said, they themselves are not the problem, its those that listen to them. I think far less would take these people seriously had the opportunities such as racial segregation and poor American foreign policy not existed. The likes of Henry Kissinger playing a game of chess with the world are out right the cause of so many of today’s major issues. With regards to racial segregation, thankfully America as a state has removed this, but the aftermath of it still lingers like the unwanted odor of washed up drunk stood behind you in the queue at the paper store as your purchasing the morning gazette.

I think something like segregation of the races will be a thing of the past in years to come, but there are still to many people with deep rooted and inherited xenophobia that walk the earth. Someone said once that Science only progress with funerals, I fear the same is true for society and politics.

The question still remained for me, had I been an American citizen, would i still vote Obama in the next election, despite this issue having come of light? Let me first come to say that the polices I am aware of I fully support and think are what is needed from America, things like removing lobbying influence, promoting universal healthcare and his concerns over nuclear terror.

With this in mind I think I still would. The pastor issue isn’t enough, it was a mistake sure, but lets face it I think he can be forgiven of a mistake or two in comparison to your current president who has been nothing short of a disaster.

Thanks for reading and all comments are welcome.

 


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on Jul 02, 2008

To those who think Obama is not fit to be commander in chief all of you to ask yourselves the following question:Do you want another four years of compassionate conservatism from someone who has no clue on how to solve this country's economic problems? C'mon people! The current commander in chief is not smarter than a 5th grader and he has basically ran this country into the ground. Obama is not perfect,but I would put my money on him than McCain anyday of the week.

on Jul 02, 2008

As a secularist, i can see where he comes from, what someone believes in politically should not be influenced by their religious beliefs or those whom preach religion to them.


But religion is politics.

I am not a "secularist" and I am certainly convinced that my religious beliefs influence my political opinion. They should. I am not studying ancient texts to make up my mind on ethics and then ignore it once there is a practical application for it named "politics".

Obama either admired that racist preacher or he doesn't. If he admired him, we should expect Obama to base his political opinion on the ethics he learned from his "spiritual mentor". If he didn't admire him, I don't understand why he would call him his spiritual mentor and listen to the sermons for 20 years.

For me a racist like Obama (and that's he is if he learned his ethics from his "spiritual mentor") is not good enough as president of the USA.


I think thats a huge problem with humanity, when you say 'advantage in a black president', do you mean any symbolic advantage?


If his skin colour is supposed to be relevant, it better be a good advantage. Otherwise I don't see the point.



As thats the only advantage that you can really gain from having someone of a particular skin pigment colour.


Saudi Arabia demands things like no Jewish ambassadors sent to Saudi Arabia. If they had the same attitude towards blacks, confronting them with a black president would be an excellent way to improve the world by confronting racists with their fears.


We shouldn't be looking at them as 'A woman candidate', 'Black Candidate' or 'Jewish Candidate'. We should be looking at what their policies are, what they believe in politically and how they present these ideas to us.


Well, Obama is a racist; Clinton is an experienced left-wing political; and McCain is an experienced politican and a war hero.

I already looked at their policies and ideals.

But Obama fans think a black president would be a good idea. Clinton fans think a woman president would be a good idea.

I agree with with the Clinton fans. In today's world, a woman president would be a good choice. A Jewish president would be a good choice too. Perhaps confronting the UN with a Jewish woman president would finally get things done.

It's as important as the first women in leading positions in offices were to change the world. People have to get used to it. And those who won't will have to deal with their fears and the fact that the world has moved on without them.

But one more incompetent world leader won't help, not even if he has the same skin colour as so many of them.

There are people who would vote for Obama because he is black. And there are people who would vote against Obama because he is black. Both are wrong because his skin colour is not important and "black" won't be an advantage for the president of the USA or the world.

Being black won't make Obama a better president, but it might win him the election.

And if it does, the USA have a problem.
on Jul 02, 2008

Do you want another four years of compassionate conservatism from someone who has no clue on how to solve this country's economic problems?


Yes.

I happen to believe that congress, not the president, makes the laws. The president can be as clueless as he wants to be, if he just does what congress wants, like Mr Bush did.

But I'm afraid I don't want a racist president. Clueless, ok. Racist, no.
on Jul 02, 2008
anyone who doesnt vote for obama is a racist!!!!
on Jul 02, 2008
anyone who doesnt vote for obama is a racist!!!!


Wow, what an intelligent reply. I am blown away.
on Jul 02, 2008

If he loses, it will not be because of skin color....imo it would be the lack of support from Clinton supporters.

Proud Puma here - not voting for Obama because I think he is inexperienced, unqualified and would be a disaster for America - it has nothing to do with race. 

on Jul 02, 2008

Obama is not perfect,but I would put my money on him than McCain anyday of the week.
  and me not so much.  There you go. 

on Jul 02, 2008

The current commander in chief is not smarter than a 5th grader
At least he knows how many states are in our country which any first grader can tell you but Obama can't. 

on Jul 03, 2008

Cheers for the link little-whip, i'll update my article now.

With regards to the comment from Farrakhan that Obama said he identified with, well i'll have to take a further look into it before i pass any judgement. If is true, and is true in the right sort of context, then it's worrying, to say the least!

I'll fly over to your article now and take a look also. Cheers for responding. 

P.S I wasn't aware we had anyone leading any of the opposition parties from Brum? Or has Ozzy Osbourne recently decided to follow up his life long ambition and dive head first into politics? haha!

on Jul 05, 2008

Il felt it showed a confident speaker, a man with intelligence, integrity and honesty

I suppose if lowing your grandmother who raised you part of your life so you can elevate your racist pastor of 20 years cries integrity you should go with it. I guess throwing grandma under the bus is the safe thing to do.

If America wasn't ready for a black president , Obama wouldn't have won the nomination and have won primaries in very white states , such as Iowa , Montana , North Dakota , Alaska , the list goes on ,

 

Yeah, wonder how that would have played if the voters at the time would have known they were just holding onto their guns and religious beliefs.  Or maybe they could have given up their 401-k’s (apparently a white entitlement) as Obama friend father Phleger suggests to atone for slavery. Obama was the ideal candidate when nobody knew him and he had no substance. Now people are learning more and liking less. Tell you what, be sure to get a good paying job, I’m getting ready to retire and I want you to insure my healthcare is excellent, dig deep now don’t scrimp.

 

The current commander in chief is not smarter than a 5th grader and he has basically ran this country into the ground. Obama is not perfect,but I would put my money on him than McCain anyday of the week,

 

So what are Obama’s credentials in regards to spending the taxpayer’s money? Not counting that wonderful interest rate he got for himself on his home, of course. The fact of the matter is the congress has more influence over the economy that the president past and present. And this congress is so wonderful. Ask for hope and change and see want you get. When will people understand businesses (i.e. those nasty rich companies) don’t pay taxes, they pass them onto the consumer. Thiers your middle class tax break Obama is promising you. Sure you might make more on paper right before you spend it on everything that just when up to cover the “taxes”. One born every minute.

 

on Jul 05, 2008
Excuses like yours are nothing more than the sniveling cries of shadow bigots too cowardly to admit to their prejudices.

The fact remains bigots oppose Obama, AMERCANS support him.
on Jul 05, 2008
not voting for Obama because I think he is inexperienced, unqualified


Actually you are not voting for Obama because you are an unintelligent low moraled buffoon who got your panties in a knot because he dared win while you were pretending to be a Democratic Hillary Clinton supporter.

Then when Hillary lost thinking for yourself became too difficult and you went back to sniveling about how you preferred the party who looks to keep you pregnant barefoot and in the kitchen.
on Jul 05, 2008
Actually you are not voting for Obama because you are an unintelligent low moraled buffoon who got your panties in a knot because he dared win while you were pretending to be a Democratic Hillary Clinton supporter.

Then when Hillary lost thinking for yourself became too difficult and you went back to sniveling about how you preferred the party who looks to keep you pregnant barefoot and in the kitchen.


yeah, that's it. rolls eyes. My panties are just finek, thanks. Hillary won 18 million votes and I am not alone in my beliefs that Obama is not qualified or experienced enough to lead our country.

So the Obamabots who can't even admit he has ever did something wrong are the ones thinking for themselves - I think not.

Oh and the barefoot and pregnant remark barely deserves a response but I think you'll find that Obama is hardly the defender of women's rights that he pretends to be now that he wants our votes.
on Jul 05, 2008
Actually you are not voting for Obama because you are an unintelligent low moraled buffoon who got your panties in a knot because he dared win while you were pretending to be a Democratic Hillary Clinton supporter.

Then when Hillary lost thinking for yourself became too difficult and you went back to sniveling about how you preferred the party who looks to keep you pregnant barefoot and in the kitchen.


Wow you really are a completely immature, moronic, asshat aren't you? Are you even capable of writing anything intelligent? Are childish insults and hyperbole all you have to offer? What a sorry piece of crap excuse for a person.

The truth is Obama lacks any real experience in national or international politics and is far too left wing to make a good president. Perhaps with a few years of experience and more maturity (something you are seriously lacking) he might make a decent president. But not now.
on Jul 06, 2008

textwing
Actually you are not voting for Obama because you are an unintelligent low moraled buffoon who got your panties in a knot because he dared win while you were pretending to be a Democratic Hillary Clinton supporter.Then when Hillary lost thinking for yourself became too difficult and you went back to sniveling about how you preferred the party who looks to keep you pregnant barefoot and in the kitchen.

 

Well i don't think she's demonstrated any of the attributes you've put forward there, in fact all she is guilty of is not having the same opinion as you on a particular subject.


Your comments are not helpful too the discussion and i'll politley ask you to engage your brain before using your keyboard on one of my articles in the future.


Many thanks.

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